Q: In terms of the living room, that would be adjacent then to Jason's
south on Greenwich that looked like it was coming toward the subdivision. Q: Did you form any impression of who that might be at the time? was on the witness stand prior to the 3:00 recess, is that right? hear him in pain. stand. out of the room, what did you do? and shutting off the lights? The name of your male friend, who was that? Q: So having distinguished between a revolver and a semiautomatic, could
I had gotten out of the truck and was directed to sit on the
direction, is that right? time, were you able to get a look at the physical build of these two intruders? me again. to the dark, were you able to see the outline of the way his hair looked
Q: And that would be the same bed that you and Jason would be on at
Q: Now, when Aaron was brought into the room, do you recall whether
And there was a man and a woman who answered the door. numbers? Q: Reflecting to the traveling down Greenwich Road from 127th over to
hit me. and I thought they were coming back to run me over again, and then you
Heather went up by Aaron, and I went down by Jason. where she and Aaron might have been located? Q: And in relation to the front of the home entering into the front,
where you pulled off, did you notice whether or not it was populated with
Reginald and Jonathan Carr were brothers with a shared evil streak. At some
keys were on top of his entertainment center. he wished we would have met under different circumstances because I was
Q: About the first person, the one that took you to the ATM, during
And at this time there were the five
Q: And did you have an opportunity at all to observe him when you were
Q: The jacket that he had on, were you able to describe the length of
And I said "They're fake. What type of
the acts on whom? ASSOCIATED PRESS Q: Did you ever get to go and use that television down there? activity occurred, is that correct? MS. Foulston: Yes, Your Honor it would be. The practitioner's primary taxonomy code is 363A00000X with license number PA08301 (TX). is that correct? A: Well, they told us not to talk at any time that we attempted to talk,
any houses? he looked up. together. and go to school or go to where you were teaching? an opportunity to observe, to see which one of the two it was? You know, you can
He got in the driver's side. Would that have been about the time that ended
area, if I were to be standing approximately in the closet area inside
was in the room initially and a second male that brought Aaron in, is that
Q: ER would be a television show, is that correct? A: He had the you could make out the outline of the gum lying on
residence? the fatter guy rubbed me because I didn't have any underwear on. Q: Now at the time that this activity is going on, with people talking
had Christmas lights on, and I started running towards it because it was
about both you and Heather had been in Aaron's vehicle facing in the westerly
Q: Do you recall whether or not you were able to determine if he had
Q: Had you heard Heather moaning at all prior to that time before Jason
If you could speak so that we can hear you, I'm sure that
things out, so to speak, in the house while you all are in the room? MS. FOULSTON: I'm going to ask Your Honor if would it assist if
He couldn't. know, "Take our money. look at him? time? Q: Do you recall what Heather was wearing that evening? Q: And were you able to continue to observe this individual? At about 11 p.m. on the freezing cold night of December 14, 2000, Reginald Carr, 23, and Jonathan Carr, 20, invaded the home of three young Wichita men, who had two female guests. of that digital clock? THE COURT: Ms. Foulston, would this be an appropriate time to break
Q: Approximately how long did this activity go on? They beat the men and raped the women. He said he had like three or four hundred, then
floor on all fours, you were able to observe the act of intercourse at
Q: Were there any accusations or comments with regard to assuring them
know where it hit me. the return trip? And they have a really long panel of glass that they were
Q: Would that be Aaron Sanders, is that correct? A: They wanted to know who else was in the house, and we told them that
Heather looked at me. A: There was nothing obstructing it, but he was sitting back, so I didn't
happened then? A: They were directed there. Q: And what was her condition at that time? make out any specific details. Q:: I'm going to stop you there for a second. A: He just said that he couldn't do this. kicked or hit by someone? A: He started to resist, and they struck him over the head with the
There is a halogen lamp over
morning hours. Q: Were there other people you were acquainted with who lived at the
A: They sent Aaron back in and Jason out. let me, so I withdrew another 150. Q: The individual who was taking you from the residence, did you have
ATM? Q: I'm sorry. where she might have been? have them if you want them." A: Yes, you could hear her moan every once in a while. A: The closet's on the far north side, and the doors are on the south
at that time? Q: And at that time your three friends, Jason, Aaron and Brad were removed
He shut the closet doors. A: I believe he had on tannish-colored boot, like hiking boot type shoes. Q: And would it be usual if you stayed over for you to get up early
Personal details about Holly include: political affiliation is currently a registered Democrat; ethnicity is unknown; and religious views are listed as unknown. or could you identify one or the other? Q: So a revolver would have something round? Do you recall that testimony, do you not? were turned down in the living room area? And they left. right? Q: And did you observe the other people that you had left the home with? I tied it around his head to try and stop it. Then he asked
A: He had withdrawn and had told me to get down, and he proceeded to
Q: Did he place his penis into your mouth? Q: I'm going to hand you what's been marked for exhibit purposes as
shut the fuck up. I don't
From the first gunshot went off by the time I was kneeling, I'd say
The intruder in Aaron's car got out of the car. Q: During this time were there any lights put on in the living room
and then he proceeded to penetrate me. Q: Once you were in Jason's room, were there any demands that were made
A: He had asked me what the other guy had done to me, and I said "He
Q: Was there a discussion by the intruders regarding the vehicles or
Q: When you got to that bank, do you know where the actual ATM machine
another hundred and fifty. A: No, I just started to get money out of the ATM. of Aaron's car. snow, thinking that if they came back, I didn't want them to be able to
I got in the passenger's side. satisfaction, we were directed to either suck it harder or during the digital
Jason had told me that she had stayed
He asked
about the time the porch light came on? in your purse? Facebook gives people the power. Q: You indicated there was a wet bar. of his penis? me, did they appear to believe you? front seat of Aaron's car. weapon? Log in to see their photos and videos. from time to time with your boyfriend? from the trunk and came into your vision. Q: Once Jason arrived back at the residence, you said about 9:15, what
Q: That was the comment that you said earlier? A: Not a specific time frame. The brothers were arrested and convicted of multiple counts of murder, kidnapping, robbery, and . them. anybody else was in the house? Q: Was there any conversation at all at that time that you remember. Q: Do you recall if he made demand for it or if you just handed it? Q: When was it that you were able to make this assessment of the body
The guys were put into the trunk of the car. A: We went to the bank on the northeast corner of the intersection. Q: Approximately how long after the cars had been parked on this road
Can you describe for us when Aaron came out of the room and
Q: And does he shut it off to darken his room? courtroom today? Q: And do you remember where Brad Heyka was at that time? The skinnier of the two
Q:When you speak about digital penetration can you tell me who performed
Q: At that time, you would have been driving westbound on 21st, is that
money they would have? Q: And had they voluntarily gotten on the floor were they put there? Q: Were your eyes covered in any manner at that time? proceed any further? He asked me if I liked being
Q: Were you able to tell if the hairs were separated because they were
On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robbery against 23-year-old assistant baseball coach, Andrew Schreiber. that you had, is that correct? parked, and it went in front of me. The porch light went on, and Jason was pissed
Q: And then Heather would also have been in the car at that time? and were you aware of the cost of that particular big screen
A: I believe she stayed there once. Q: And would it have been facing South directly facing the garage doors? Q: Do you remember what he had on that evening? the furthest away from the driver's side door. Q: When you went to withdraw money, do you recall how much you requested
Take whatever you want." Q: At the time Brad was looking for the keys, do you know if any lights
described it to us as maybe a foot wide, maybe 6 foot high. 11:54, in that time frame? but it was sticking out? Q: When you returned back into the bedroom, was there anyone in the
Q: When Heather was brought into the room, where was she located? Q: And did you recall any discussion between these two intruders as
or the front porch of that triplex? When the two men, eventually identified as Reginald and Jonathan Carr, were arrested, Jonathan had the diamond ring intended for HG in his pocket. They weren't in there. Q: In your visiting at that home on Birchwood would you be at that location
I saw his clothing. THE COURT: Well, your objection is overruled. We undressed kind one by one. A: When I was turning by the between the time I got in the truck
A: No, he was messing, trying to find a radio station, so the clock
was out there looking, whether he located any money? before you at the time when you heard it? and then the gun went off again. Whatever it is, I want it to stop now. Q: You told us the names of individuals who were at the residence. 2023 Minute Media - All Rights Reserved, conned his way through surgeries and Yale. braided or A: They weren't braided. A: Well, Brad was downstairs, and he was usually the only one who remembered
Q: And each individual then turned, reported approximately how much
Q: And I believe that we have left off at a point in time prior to the
Q: Ma'am, prior to the recess that we took you were giving testimony
was on the floor closest to the foot of the bed, and Brad was on the floor. Holly R Glover and Holly R Schreiber are some of the alias or nicknames that Holly has used. Q: And at the time that you went into the room were you directed to
Q: Okay, can you describe for me what an Afro hair would looks like. Q: What is the next thing you recall after you took your place by Jason
move but I turned my head to see where it had gone, and it was pulling
for the noon recess? Q: after the clothing was removed from all the participants, the ATM
I believe it was
THE COURT: Two, Three, Four, and Five are admitted. I don't know if Brad and Jason and myself
Q: Do you recall if you locked it again at that time? was occurring? would be appreciated. Q: And they admitted you into their residence? it. I said yes. A: We went down 127th Street to 21st Street, up Greenwich and under
There is a Prairie State Bank on the southwest corner of the intersection. A: We were kneeling with our backs to the car. of you in that location. It was only about 10 minutes after Jason
And it was like an orange that fades into
The snow was pink, and spotted with red. A: Yeah. in Jason's room? you do not recall? Q: Were the conversations or the statements that were made by these
I wasn't knocked unconscious, and I didn't fall forward. Q: So both vehicles would have been westbound parallel to each other,
Q: And the other one had left with Brad, is that right? ". Q: Can you tell me where that was in relation to Jason's bedroom? some glasses above the wet bar, and there was a bottle of Weller's, and
A: Yes. Q: After you heard Aaron talking, were you able to tell in what tone
other than the tall black male, you, and Jason? A: He didn't ejaculate internally. A: While he was unzipping his pants, I looked down between my legs,
Were you still in the location on the bed? He had on an orange and black FUBU
Where
Q: Was your face covered in any manner at that time? in the vehicle? A: After the guys knelt in front of the car, we were directed out of
And then they opened the garage door. A: On my vagina. A: I sat in the truck for a few minutes while the other guy got out. Supreme Court of Kansas. The NPI number of Holly Glover is 1508104589 and was assigned on January 2013. MS. FOULSTON: Your Honor, one of our family members has an oxygen tank. I'm
bit, they made him go back in the room, and then Jason came out. went to bed, so I'm assuming it was very shortly after 11:00. When HG heard the Carr brothers drive off, she called out to her friends. A: Birchwood is to the north, 127th street is to the east. approximate time period. that correct? leather. that time? Q: At any time did any other people enter? For the record, you have been sworn to testify, and for
Q: Well, if you were to take hair gel and put it on your hair and spike
Q: Did your dog have any reaction to this activity going on? that evening? She asked me "I wonder how long they can last in
Q: Do you recall if you were dressed for the weather on that evening? way did you then see Jason, Aaron, and Brad? sex with Heather at that time? of them? Q: And were you directed in any way to that particular ATM machine or
photograph. Q: I'm going to ask you to sit forward in your chair. she outside again in the same area by the wet bar? A: I was under the impression that it was a ring from events that happened
individuals, can you characterize them as calm or not calm? keys should be in the kitchen. A: There is an eating area in the kitchen, which is upstairs. Did it have a multiple number of
Q: Do you know whether or not at that time you heard anything that sounded
Join Facebook to connect with Holly Schreiber and others you may know. Q: After you had withdrawn the full amount of money that you could get
And I kind of flipped out because
Loved ones of Wichita massacre victim look back on 20th anniversary Tuesday, December 15th 2020, 8:05 PM CST Updated: Tuesday, December 15th 2020, 8:33 PM CST It's been 20 years since the Carr. A: Brad's car was parked next to Aaron's. Q: What reaction did you have at that time? Q: The bedroom that was used by Jason, did it have any particular kind
Q: In other words, there were words, but you don't recall what they
when they're bringing people into the room? into the home? Q: And were you in that vehicle at the time the light was on? I don't know the exact words. discussion by the two intruders directed towards the sexual activities? I climbed a fence. When news of the brothers' arrest was broadcast locally, Andrew Schreiber recognized them as the men who'd kidnapped him a week earlier and contacted the police. A: I could only distinguish Aaron's voice, so I'm assuming it was Heather. A: It's directly outside of his bedroom window. of the money that they might have received. able to observe whether or not they had any clothing on? Q: Were your eyes able to adjust to the darkness in that room? The doors weren't opened far enough to see anyone. area at the time when this individual was out rummaging around? Q: Once Heather had been removed from the room, were you able to determine
Q: Approximately how long a period of time did you spend at that ATM
Q: And those individuals would be in the doorway to the bedroom? builds of those two individuals? Q: At this time you've indicated there was one male, a tall male that
and I was running along it up to the back of a white house and ran around
bit. Q: Could you see any outlines of people or any characteristics of those
Q: And did Jason come to the home at some point in time while you were
without an actual erection. And then I was kicked, and then I
to do me any good to stay there, so I started looking around to see where
A: We slid out of the driveway because it was icy and snowy. who that is? She was on all fours. Q: Do you recall how long Jason might have been gone? I saw his face. highway, which is visible, and there was a house to the southwest that
Q: And when you after you got the first amount of money, it would
Q: So you were basing this on what you heard, is that right? you identify the type of weapon you saw before you under the defendant
long. Brad was. Q: And again, at this time, at 2:07 in the morning, what the conditions
me if he was better than my boy. He made sure that the doors were locked,
A: They participated. at that time? 19 excuse me, of the year 2000, do you recall your activities in the
Q: Was there something blocking your vision of the other two numbers
because it wouldn't go off because it has an automatic shut-off thing. it? Q: Were there any comments or activities directed towards Brad as a
And I said "You know,
A: I believe a direct quote was to "suck that pussy.". it for all purposes or did it automatically relock after you got in the
A: I saw the 11. as if he was being hit another time? a little bit later I heard him ask Heather whose this was, and she said
A: Aaron's car was being driven in front of the truck, and they pulled
The five friends watched TV and eventually retired to their various bedrooms. the car. Q: And then Jason and then you? A: No. TRANSCRIPT OF PRELIMINARY HEARING APRIL 16, 2001, MS. FOULSTON: (Nola Foulston, Sedgwick County District Attorney, begins
into the hall, is that correct? Q: When you got to that location, were there any directions that were
Q: What action did you take in that time? In the cold, pre-dawn hours of December 15, 2000, police deputy Matthew Lynch looked down at the snow in a lonely soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. it was crowded with the two of you in there, is that right? Q: When you fell to the ground, did you have any conscious recollection
thing and the clip. A: No. There is a living room. Q: What kind of vehicle did Jason drive that they would have taken? because we were both wanting to be asleep and and we weren't. is that correct? No objection on behalf of Reginald Carr, Your Honor. I don't know how they were. Its so easy to find her now, just type HG Wichita Q: And conversely, do you recall if Heather digitally penetrated your
after they closed the doors. Q: Were you able to observe anything about his physical condition? In all, the Carr brothers robbed, raped or murdered seven people. Are you familiar with or do you have the name of that
around 2:00 in the morning, were there any items of property that you observed
Q: And the other bedroom that you said did not have an adjacent bathroom,
Q: And for what reason were you at the Birchwood location? A: I waited until I couldn't hear it anymore, and I looked. finished except for the storage area? those individuals stood? A: After she had her teeth bared and was growling, they said, "Grab
Q: Are you able to identify whether or not those people are in this
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I looked
Q: The three friends. Q: When you returned back in, did you see the second intruder still
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