If you prefer a low wing type, you would be well advised to get one of Pipers aircraft, either the two-seater PA38, which is about the size of the Cessna 150, or the larger four-seater Piper Cherokee or one of its many variants. Its very responsive. I've never heard anyone say the sliding canopy leaks. Flying Educators requires members to already have their Private Pilot Certificate, but Greg would recommend the aircraft as a primary trainer. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. What are real world numbers for these two at 75%? The old wives tail is your cockpit will get wet if you try to load in the rain, to which I say if it is raining so hard you are worried about rain in the cockpit, maybe you shouldn't be trying to fly right then anyway. Kinda dicey actually. Members only needed a current medical, current flight review, CFI checkout with logbook entry for the club aircraft make and model, and at least 10 hours in tailwheel aircraft. We are a collective group of airline instructors, and pilots dedicated to all things aviation. Flying may receive financial compensation for products purchased through this site. Approachable Aircraft: Grumman AA-5 Series. Man erkennt eine AG-5B auch am T-frmigen Gashebel. The hierarchy of personal general aviation aircraft types has, over the years, come to be defined by certain mainstays. The main differences between the Piper Archer and Cessna 172 are: The Piper Archer has only one door on the right-hand side for access, whereas the Cessna 172 has two doors on each side of the aircraft. Still, I think the additional climb rate of the Tiger makes it a better choice, even if speed is not a major concern. Some pilots do not, since although they can see really well beneath the aircraft in the cruise, visibility in the circuit/pattern can be difficult. We havent had any major problems with the Tiger.Aero on Demand said annuals without squawksrun about $1,200 depending on the going rate in your part of the country. So again, if you want to take the family on holiday, having a plane which is faster, more powerful, and can carry more weight, may decide things for you. Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by BellyUpFish, Aug 29, 2011. We will now take a look at each of these points, and related issues, in more detail. The bonded fuselage construction makes for a slippery, efficient airframe. Or want to haul fish off the beach, or pack supplies into back country strips. Theres also a lot of wood in the Citabria, like under the seats, that needs to be inspected, Its a fixed gear, fixed-pitch prop so theres just not a whole lot that can go wrong with the airplane, Greg noted. And a little more economically., Mike from Aero on Demand added, Besides the RV, its the fastest 180-hp airplane out there with a fixed-pitch prop. Although the airplane hasnt been manufactured for quite some time, Greg said parts are easy to get. I don't know the details of his financial situation, but I think he could pop for a Tiger without breaking a sweat. Im giving you the credit you deserve, http://precisionengine.home.mindspring.com/4plstc.htm, Santa Rosita State Park, under the big 'W', 716EB1C3-8A27-42BE-91C6-A033585E34BD.jpeg, https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/com-a-grumman-tiger-to.81264/page-2#post-1756259, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. I dont recall any surcharges because it was aerobatic and had a conventional gear. Come join us! One maintainer reports that the majority of incidents he sees are a result of runway overruns that began with excessive speed on final approach. If it is a new paint job people have got stripper in the joints remember this plane is glued together and stripper in the glue is bad, make sure this did not happen. With a, fixed-pitch prop and fixed gear, its simple to operate. Insurance should be similarly straightforward. As a small pilot, with a great deal of experience in the Cessna 150, I most definitely prefer it. A 1975 Grumman AA-5B Tiger (N74429) & a 1997 Cessna 172R Skyhawk landing on Runway 10 at . Its super tight on the controls. Let us take a look now at these. The most affordable single-engine planes. Otherwise I can take a photo of the for sale sign at the airport sometime. Everybody was used to flyingCitabrias, which as you know is fully aerobatic, Greg said. Are the LoPresti Tiger cowls in production yet? She's published several books and articles on all things aviation and is eager to continue sharing her knowledge! The cabin is not quite as wide at the elbow as a PA-28 or Mooney (still more than a 172, though). Never seen you, are on the north side of the field? https://www.aopa.org/go-fly/aircraft-and-ownership/aircraft-fact-sheets/cessna-150, https://executiveflyers.com/cessna-150-vs-172/, https://www.aviationconsumer.com/aircraftreviews/cessna-150/, https://singleenginepilot.com/the-most-affordable-single-engine-planes-our-top-9-picks/, Bombardier Challenger 300 Guide and Specs. It was developed from the 1948 Cessna 170 but with tricycle landing gear rather than conventional landing gear.The Skyhawk name was originally used for a trim package, but was later applied to . While the difference between the two is by no means huge, the 152 is the more economical option. Nope. Depends on his needs and his budget. I had been learning about 172s. There is a reason why so many people fly the Cessna 172, and why it is said to be the most popular aircraft ever produced. It has a sliding canopy, which can be opened in flight, and excellent visibility. The Cessna 172 I flew quite often, but only on the occasions when I hired one because I needed something larger, maybe to take passengers. Insurance companies are all familiar with both these aircraft, so their charges are likely to be reasonable. Our Citabria wasnt re-covered during the time Flying Educators owned it, Greg said. The clubwanted an airplane better suited for cross-country travelandthey settled on the Grumman AA5B Tiger. (I'm at Hollywood aviation in the plane ports. Some smaller pilots struggle to fly the Cessna 172, while some large people find they have problems in the Cessna 150 It is larger, safer, and allows you to travel further and faster, while carrying more passengers and luggage. Id take a Tiger or a Cheetah over a 172, every day of the week. The most popular of the Grumman series, the Tiger seats four, has a 180-hp engine, and burns 10 gph. Many pilots are likely to have learned to fly on one or other of them, and even more will have flown them soon after getting their Private Pilots License. Tiger owner here. And, if you are doing aerobatics, you need parachutes that need to be repacked regularly, which would add a cost. Both of these aircraft are made by Cessna and are fairly similar when it comes to flying. It also makes a nice IFR-platform if it is properly equipped. The Flying Educators Tiger has a two-axis autopilot so it frequently flies under IFR. Perhaps because they are easy to fly, some pilots complain that both the Cessna 150 and the Cessna 172 are somewhat boring. In the AG-5B, the 12-volt electrical system was replaced with a 24-volt system, and the refresh included several minor systems and aerodynamic improvements, plus improved corrosion coating. Grumman-American, on the other hand, never certified the AA-5x for 160 hp. Every Cessna 172 or Cherokee 140 I fly with is quickly left in the dust by a good 10 to 15 knots. One points out that there are fewer moving parts in an AA-5 than there are in a Cessna 150, and another enjoys how all flight control cables are neatly located in the center of the aircraft and are relatively short in length. The Citabria is a derivative of the Aeronca Champ and was first produced in 1964 by Champion Aircraft Corporation. You all are so wrong. Even if you dont use the Citabria for aerobatics, there is something romantic about flying a taildragger with a stick particularly one that is light and responsive to control inputs. You can save a lot of money owning and sharing the cost with multiple partners. Fuse to Circuit Breakers - Grumman Style: Replacing your old fuse holders with Klixon 7277-2 series circuit breakers. Pilots Operating Handbook Cessna 152- Pilots Safety And Warning . Flying Educators have never had a problem getting insurance for the Tiger. Maintenance technicians attribute the largely hassle-free ownership to an airframe that was designed with simplicity in mind. The seats move further forward in the more modern versions of the Cessna 172, but even so, I find it easier to fly the Cessna 150, where everything is within easy reach. I am very familiar with both these aircraft types. The Tiger was the outcome of the same redesign work on the AA-5 Traveler that resulted in the 150 hp (110 kW) Cheetah and it was originally little more than the same aircraft . Just went with a friend to check one out. In the early 90s up to the when the Flying Educators sold the Citabria in 1995, the hourly rate was $21 wet, and the monthly club dues were $42. According to Greg, the 115-hpCitabria burned about 5 to 6 gph, making it economical to operate. He enjoys researching obscure aviation history and serves as a judge for the National Intercollegiate Flying Association. Theyre fast little airplanes.. Help me understand the wing structure. The Citabria wins this category over the Tiger without question. Aero on Demand, a Houston-based club, also operates a Tiger and it is equipped with an engine monitor providing very accurate data. Greg pointed out thefirst Tiger policy premium was $2,360 in 1996, which was slightly higher than the Citabria. 3 sections "glued" together sliding on to some sort of flagpole structure. ), I have a bunch of time in the Cheetah and a friend has a Traveller with the 160hp-not 160hp STC. Grumman produced the AA5B Tiger from 1975 through 1979, and then American General produced the AG5B Tiger from 1991 through 1993. The four-place Grumman AA-5 family might be one of the better-kept secrets, offering the simplicity of a Cessna 172 while approaching the cruise speed of a similarly powered Mooney. "Three or four of the 10 members would use it for aerobatics a lot. Greg said. Both are inexpensive to operate and maintai. , The specs list the cruise speed at 139 knots, but Greg said the. Please contact the friendly folks at the Pilots Place for There are no STC's for putting a 160HP engine in an AA-5 Traveler, and I've never heard of such an installation. Get the Tiger, you local flights will get boring after 100 hours and you'll want to stretch out to further destinations. With a fixed-pitch propeller and fixed gear, it is simple to operate. The bonded aluminum construction eliminates the need for rivets, so even sitting on the ground it looks sleek. Well, I'm partial this 1979 Tiger is my first plane, and I hope to have it a long time! Helen has worked as an instructor for several years, flying throughout Europe and the US. Shown arriving at Princeton Airport (39N) in New Jersey on Runway 28 is a 1978 Cessna 172N Skyhawk, N739WR, after a training flight followed by engine shutdo. One of the challenges is finding instructors who can teach in it whether its tailwheel or aerobatic. Enter your email and click on the I am a Also See: Cessna 150 vs 172; Cessna 180 vs 185 Aero on Demand, a Houston-based club, also operates a Tiger and it is equipped with an engine monitor providing very accurate data. Jason McDowell. UBB Message. I think the only way I would chose the Traveller of the Gruman line was because I could get a good airframe and avionics package and upgrade to 180hp cheaper than I could buy a Tiger for, and I don't really see that happening. The sliding, glass-rich canopy can be flown partially open in flight, adding to the pilots unique experience in this series. The Tiger I fly is 900lbs. Tigers are very reasonable now. Enter your Username and Password to log in. Helen is an expert in all things aviation! 180-hp Lycoming O360 burns 10 gph. This. It all comes down to what your mission is. Your login, avatars, posts and archives have all be relocated there. Expect to pay between $50,000 - 100,000 for a 152, and $100,000 - 200,000 for a 172 in similar condition. In the early 90s up to the when the Flying Educators sold the Citabria in 1995, the hourly rate was $21 wet, and the monthly club dues were $42. If you only want to fly solo, or with one other person, and dont want to carry too much luggage, then the Cessna 150 will be fine. The Cessna 172, on the other hand, is still being produced. Three or four of the 10 members would use it for aerobatics a lot. Greg said. Combined with a panoramic canopy, nimble handling, relatively modest prices and thriving owners groups, the resulting blend of strengths makes these Grummans intriguing options for new and experienced owners alike. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Its a fixed gear, fixed-pitch prop so theres just not a whole lot that can go wrong with the airplane, Greg noted. This isn't chump speed, since the AA-5, by virtue of its slab-sided honeycomb panel fuselage, is hardly slick in the drag department. The Tiger has a published book cruise speed of 139 knots but owners generally plan on real-world speeds of 130 to 138 knots. Tiger Insurance for our 1979 Citabria (Model 7-ECA) was $870 in 89 and had risen to $2,195 when we sold it in 95, Greg said. It will keep up with an Arrow. Additionally, the airplane can be flown with a partially open canopy, which improves the experience even further. I toured all of Europe in one of these, with a friend. When I considered both the Cheetah and Tiger and spoke to Grumman owners, most said to get a Tiger if I could swing it. the Forgot Password link. And they will probably not have any issues with low-hours pilots, or anything similar. Additionally, the castering nosewheel is a simpler and lighter design than those used in most Cessnas and Pipers. The Grumman Pilots Association and Grumman Gang are additional resources, and enthusiastic support is available to the owner community in the form of online forums and video tutorials. With the assistance of aircraft designer Roy LoPresti, the airframe was cleaned up to reduce drag, the horizontal stabilizer was enlarged to increase elevator authority and expand the CG range, and fuel capacity went from 37 to 52 gallons. They are faster, handle more crisply, have a nice sliding canopy, and are a bit more unusual than offerings from other aircraft in their class from Cessna, Piper and Beech . It is such an OWT there's even a guy who makes satirical videos about it. AA-5B Tiger. The American Yankee Association is the original type club and holds regular events, including an annual convention. Before I bought my Grumman Tiger, I was in a flying club and flew a Cessna Cardinal. What do I need to do? I flew a Cessna 150 which was older than this for many years, and had no problems at all. I know better. 2. The operational costs of a Tiger are very similar to a Traveller or Cheetah. Small ruder for X wind landing, more than one landed on nose wheel and met their demise not that other aircraft don't. Considering pre-flight, trip time, rides to and from airports, etc., it was faster driving on any trip less than about 200 miles. The AA-5 series serves as an interesting alternative to the comparable Cessna and Piper models that make up the general aviation fleet. Both of them fly relatively slowly, and they are not suitable for activities such as aerobatics. members wanted an aircraft more suited to that mission. Being based in Florida,the Flying Educators havemany destinations within a 500-mile radius, including the Bahamas,andmembers wanted an aircraft more suited to that mission. , the members were used to something light and agile on the controls. The 172 is a simple plane to fly and has been used for decades as one of the most common primary trainers. Its hard to beat a tandem seat aerobatic aircraft when it comes to fun. Thank you for being a part of the Cessna 172 Club! Gulfstream ceased production of all piston-engined aircraft in 1979 and the highly successful Tiger design went out of production after 1323 aircraft had been delivered. With a fuel burn at cruise of around 5 GPH, she does better than my Chevy S10. Enjoy!Aircraft: N474EPC172ROutro Song:Gold Skies - Liam Aidan Aircraft Spotlight: Comparing the Citabria and the Grumman Tiger, FAA publishes 'Aviation Weather Handbook'. If it is a new paint job people have got stripper in the joints remember this plane is glued together and stripper in the glue is bad, make sure this did not happen. How do I Apologies for the shakiness.Aircraft: Grumman AA-5B Tiger, Cessna 172R Skyhawk \u0026 Eurocopter AS355 TwinStarTime of Day: 2:53 PMDate: November 2nd, 2022 include the 150-hp AA5 Traveler and AA5A Cheetah, and the 160-hp GA7 Cougar. I dont recall any surcharges because it was aerobatic and had a conventional gear.. If your club wants to offer something different yet cost effective, a Citabria can help attract members who want to earn a tailwheel endorsement or do some aerobatic flying. AA-5 prices can vary widely, but when we exclude the most extreme examples in a recent sampling of listings, the majority fall in the $30,000 to $60,000 range. The four-place Grumman AA-5 family might be one of the better-kept secrets, offering the simplicity of a Cessna 172 while approaching the cruise speed of a similarly powered Mooney. We have And both types are fairly easy to fly and very popular with low-hours pilots. Copyright 2023 Flying Media. The hull is insured at $65,000 with $1 million liability. He can be found on Instagram as @cessnateur. I only have time in the AA1X series, the baby brother of the tiger, the canopy design I think is one of the better ones in GA, no issues, the free castor nose wheel was great for ground handling, nice shock absorbing and strong fiberglass mains, good fuel tank system, etc. Fold down back seats make an awesome cargo hauler with over 6-1/2 feet of room. login you will see the new forum. At these airframe weights, 20hp buys a good bit of forgiveness. Greg noted that on a namedpolicyyoull pay a premium based on your least experienced pilot. Please head over to our new home at the Pilots Place Forum. The plane cruised at around 115 mph and had about a 20-gallon fuel tank, Greg recalled. It also has a faster speed and a better range. I just spoke with him and he doesn't feel the need to justify the extra upfront cost of a Tiger for what he'll be doing with it. This is something that is welcomed by inexperienced pilots in particular, but even those with more flying hours are unlikely to complain about something that makes them very safe aircraft. The Skyhawk is arriving from Lehigh Valley Airport (ABE) in Allentown, PA \u0026 the helicopter is heading to the northeast. AA-5 Traveler & AA-5A Cheetah Competitive Comparison, AA-5B & AG-5B Tiger Competitive Comparison, Pilot Familiarization Program Instructors. Aerodynamischer Feinschliff verbesserte die Reisegeschwindigkeit von 139 auf 143 Knoten. 1. So if you want to buy a new airplane, this may well be the model for you. Grumman Tiger. Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. To provide a more up-to-date cost perspective, the Wild River Flying Club in Osceola, WI operates a 1979 Citabria with a 150-hp Lycoming O-320. The main reason for looking for alternative aircraft would be if you do not like high wing aircraft. It's faster than a 172 and carries about the same load (typically about 800-850 lb useful), but is not as tolerant of grass or extremely short runways. But the Cessna 150 is not unsafe by any means. Moving to the Grumman Tiger meant they could have a four-place aircraft better suited for cross-country travel and still have a plane that was responsive. The Citabria wins this category over the Tiger without question. And what was involved in getting it approved? It also has a faster speed and a better range. Like any aerodynamically efficient airframe, proper speed management is important on approach and landing. However, I would buy the plane just for fun. But, hiding in the gaps between those segments, there are some less common types that offer an intriguing blend of qualities. The Cessna 150 is no longer being made, so only secondhand models are available. If my friend buys it, I'll get a checkout from the current owner, who is a CFI before we start working in it. Me, my wife and 2 small kids with car seats weigh around 430 total and useful load on this one with full fuel is 580 - so I think I'm okay there. Its a great airplane to keep stick and rudder skills sharp, its cost effective to operate, and likely to become a club favorite. They have an unnamed policy, meaning they dont have to list their members or their flight time, so anyone who joins the club is insured. That phrase sort of confuses me. Members only needed a current medical, current flight review, CFI checkout with logbook entry for the club aircraft make and model, and at least 10 hours in tailwheel aircraft. You can literally fly with your pinkies.. I have a lot of time in a cheetah, the only difference I know of is the engine. While the early Travelers provide a slightly higher useful load than the other AA-5 models, often exceeding 900 pounds, Cheetah and Tiger owners enjoy increased pitch authority and a wide CG range provided by their larger horizontal stabilizers. 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